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Drego
10-27-2007, 01:49 PM
I'm just wondering the general ideas of other bots for QQ. I'm not asking for the specifics, just if you're using a plow, tank tread, gripper arm, or some other type of arm. I know that you teams aren't going to want to give away all of you're strategies, I would just like to get a general idea.

Drego
10-31-2007, 10:14 AM
Thanks, this will help out a lot of teams, but i think theres more than 10 teams that are members of this forum. Keep it going.

Robo Vike
11-01-2007, 04:47 PM
We were mostly forced to use a plow design. We tried to use intake rollers on a ramp that lifted up and down (for scoring two points), but it didn't work. We weren't able to try tank tread, since we were not allowed to use it (this was only a classroom sized tournament with eight teams, more limited with resources). But with the plow came some really good defense and goal moving.

basicxman
11-01-2007, 05:18 PM
We were mostly forced to use a plow design. We tried to use intake rollers on a ramp that lifted up and down (for scoring two points), but it didn't work. We weren't able to try tank tread, since we were not allowed to use it (this was only a classroom sized tournament with eight teams, more limited with resources). But with the plow came some really good defense and goal moving.

i agree we dont have much vex stuff so were doing plow, im not on a school team i started my own

The_Wizard
11-02-2007, 07:14 PM
ill say this. last year, there were teams with th idea that yiou could score 3 low goals faster than anybody could score a high goal. That was before most of them saw the power of mass scoring robots. If your robot is just a plow, you may have dufficulty. in my oppinion, an efficient robot that can't score on the posts would be one that can controll multiple goals VERY well. i don't mean this to offenc anybody, just a bit of constructive critisizm.

texasranger
11-02-2007, 09:22 PM
If I were to go in FTC, i'd build an intake system for rings and an a plow that could have linear and arm movement (goes up and down and forwards and backwards) to push rings into low goals and intake rings for distribution in high goals. I'd probably then use a dump to dump the rings on to a platform. Maybe an arm to get a ring into a high goal at the same time (with a two transmitter control system).

but i don't really have the time to build all this since i'm in school and all and i'm not paying for a competition that i have no team for.

Drego
11-03-2007, 12:08 AM
Its pointless to score in a low goal as it was last year. The softballs were easily removed. Our team was able to create a few shutouts because we could push the balls out of the low goals. It is even easier to remove the rings this year than it was to remove the balls last year.

basicxman
11-03-2007, 06:38 AM
Its pointless to score in a low goal as it was last year. The softballs were easily removed. Our team was able to create a few shutouts because we could push the balls out of the low goals. It is even easier to remove the rings this year than it was to remove the balls last year.


its not pointless because your robot can get about 10+ points from the side goals, 28 points from pushing the single and paired goals into your allicance section, and all at the same time block your opponent from getting rings and points.

gblake
11-03-2007, 10:05 AM
Its pointless to score in a low goal.If the driver is good, and if the robot does a few important things other than attempt to rack up points with rings, then the machine_plus_driver(s) can be a very valuable complement to another one that can score off the floor with the rings.

Basketball teams usually don't put five point guards on the field. Soccer teams rarely put 9 mid-fielders on the field. Not all successful alliances will have two machines that can score rings on the platforms and posts.

The world is not black and white....

Blake

gamerfrEEk
11-03-2007, 11:41 AM
If I were to go in FTC, i'd build an intake system for rings and an a plow that could have linear and arm movement (goes up and down and forwards and backwards) to push rings into low goals and intake rings for distribution in high goals. I'd probably then use a dump to dump the rings on to a platform. Maybe an arm to get a ring into a high goal at the same time (with a two transmitter control system).

but i don't really have the time to build all this since i'm in school and all and i'm not paying for a competition that i have no team for.
Ok, I like your ideas, but to get back to reality on this...that would take alot more than 10 motors/servos. Intake=1minimum, plow horizontal=1minimum, arm movement= 2 minimum, to lift dump=2 minimum, to tilt dump/open door=1 minimum, arm gripper=1 minimum, lift arm=1 minimum. You are left with one motor for the drive train. Also you did not plan out how this would fit inside the 18X18X18 block. Clearly you would need more motors just to fold things out.
Its pointless to score in a low goal as it was last year. The softballs were easily removed. Our team was able to create a few shutouts because we could push the balls out of the low goals. It is even easier to remove the rings this year than it was to remove the balls last year.
I beg to differ on your low goal theory. Out team did fantastic with this. We had a great operator and strategy. Get all the balls on the other side of the field on our side and just mash them in the low goal. We had so many balls into the goal that it was maxed out with 22 balls and it was even difficult to sweep out our goal because our robot was so fast compared to the other ones that we would be able to sweep the other low goal completely and return to replesnish our goal before you could get back to your side. Take a look at our videos. I'm not lying on this.
If the driver is good, and if the robot does a few important things other than attempt to rack up points with rings, then the machine_plus_driver(s) can be a very valuable complement to another one that can score off the floor with the rings.

Blake

Once again, we had a simple robot that was efficient enough to do the tasks extremely well.We had operators that could handle the pressure, difficult to operate speed ,and strategies.

Drego
11-03-2007, 12:03 PM
It sounds that you had a great low goal scoring bot. There really weren't that many, however. Most of the bots just pushed a couple of balls into the low goal. There werent many specialized bot for just scoring in the low goals.

corpralchee
11-03-2007, 05:28 PM
There was one team Jaws, # 3050, Thanks fred, they were on the runner up alliance to the world champions. Very well built robot, I knew their driver and he was fully confident it the control of the robot.

Drego
11-03-2007, 05:48 PM
Is there a link or pic that you have of their robot I would like to see one.

fredliu168
11-03-2007, 05:49 PM
There was one team Jaws, I don't remember their team # but they were on the runner up alliance to the world champions. Very well built robot, I knew their driver and he was fully confident it the control of the robot.

Jaws was 3050. The driver played the game extremely well, and made some amazing manuvers, including blocking the autonomous of multiple robots. They didn't make it to 7th rank in the world championships, as well as finalists by luck.

Some other notable 1-goalers that made it to eliminations in Atlanta are:

Pheer the evil of computer love (eighth alliance 2nd pick)
2nd Pick of the 6th alliance

Techno-Turkey1
11-04-2007, 06:24 AM
Do you think they'll ever change the place of nationals?

The_Wizard
11-04-2007, 06:47 AM
They may, once there contract expires.

Techno-Turkey1
11-04-2007, 08:59 AM
They may, once there contract expires.

When does he contract expire?

corpralchee
11-04-2007, 09:47 AM
I believe this is the last year that they have a contract for Atlanta,

But lets get the thread back on topic.